Posts by Separation of Powers

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Scriptural Basis for Obedience to GB?

by mrhhome in

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i have a genuine question for the jw apologist.

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what is your scriptural justification for your unquestioning obedience to the governing body and your unwillingness to question their intepretation of scripture?.

Separation of Powers

The apologist will tell you they are not obeying the GB. They are obeying God. The GB are simply helping them to understand just what God wants them to obey.

Quick response to this foolishness...ask an apologist why they don't celebrate birthdays. Now, ask them what would they do if the Watchtower said it's ok to celebrate birthdays. If they say that they would (new lite and all that) then they are not obeying God they are obeying the GB and we all know that if birthdays were fully acceptable...everyone would celebrate them!

SOP

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Could you get disfellowshipped for simply asking questions?

by LogCon in

if so, what would be some examples?.

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only questions that show a higher degree of thought and intelligence please..

Separation of Powers

Depends on the questions...

Then again, honestly, why do you want to ask questions when you know the answers already? There is a distinct difference between asking a question and "questioning." In either case, a lot depends on who you are asking.

SOP

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I was "totally" stopped in my tracks by an "atheist" comment.

by booker-t in

i must admit i can at times be a little "egotistical" when it comes to knowledge and the bible.

i have studied the bible for so long and have always had a passion for the bible as a jw and as an ex-jw.

i guess that is all i have left when it comes to religion and as humans we do tend to stroke our egos.

Separation of Powers

If the story of Noah is true....than that means that destiny is true. Everything is predetermined. Nothing you do or say can change your fate in the eyes of God. Reasoning?

BEFORE Noah started to preach, God had already told him the dimensions of the Ark. Noah then preached for decades while building the Ark. If God had already prescribed the dimensions of the Ark PRIOR to the start of Noah's preaching that would mean that God knew that no one would respond and Noah's preaching was in vain PRIOR to it commencing! If that is the case, then NOTHING....ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that you do can amount for much...you are either destinded to live or destined to die.

My take on all this, it is a Hebrew legend to further distinguish the Hebrew nation as chosen by God. Nothing more. Nothing less.

SOP

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Anyone recall a time when your congregation came to the aid of a Brother or sister in need??

by jam in

i'm not talking about a individual, but a congregation as a whole.. i'm talking about a brother or sister that really hit hard times.. have there ever been an occasion where the brothers (elders).

decided to dip into the kh funds and help one in need????.

example, brother loose his job, get evicted, family of four or.

Separation of Powers

Based on the parameters you have mentioned, not one.

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Survey---who is inactive, disfellowshipped/disassociated or active?

by minimus in

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i am inactive for about 10 years now..

Separation of Powers

Inactive now for 2 years...mentally out a few years before that....

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Has your trust in charity been shaken lately?

by suavojr in

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excerpt from the wt article, http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2003401.

jehovahs witnesses today are also quick to help when disaster strikes.

during the summer of 2001, for instance, torrential storms caused major flooding in houston, texas, u.s.a. in all, 723 homes of witnesses were damaged to some extent, many of them quite badly.

Separation of Powers

JW's help each other...that's good.

JW's don't typically help anyone outside of their sphere of influence.

Charity, as a Christian, should be showed to anyone who needs it. An organization that helps only its own is not charitable, it's investing!

From the movie, Angels and Demons, "My church feeds the hungry. My church comforts the sick and the dying. What does your church do?" That may well sum up what Christianity is all about...at least in the beginning. No true church exists today that follows that example to the same degree.

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All you wise, intelligent, brilliant folks, what's the best method to get rid of God's lovely creature.

by jam in

skunks underneath the house....

Separation of Powers

Get a professional exterminator...IMMEDIATELY. Do not mess with skunks! They are not cute.

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What three items were in the Ark of the Covenant?

by jam in

i will give you a hint.

1) jar of bread 2) stick 3) two stones.. and why were they placed in the ark of the covennant????.

i'm embarrassed to say, as a former elder, schooled by the.

Separation of Powers

Budded Staff- to show the approved priestly class.

The Manna- to show God's divine protection and provision

The Tablets- To access JW.org

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Would Your Family Stone You to Death?

by cofty in

ot law required jews to take the lead in stoning a family member who became apostate.. the watchtower has lamented the fact that the law of the land now forbids them from doing so.. if the law permitted it, as it does in some musim countries, and if the watchtower required it, would your family obey?.

my parents are good people and i believe their love for me is genuine, but i think they would follow orders.. what about yours?.

Separation of Powers

One of my parents would throw a large rock while diverting their eyes. One of my siblings would gather a pile of rocks so that they could complete the task with minimal downtime. One would hold my garments like Saul. The other would jump in front of me and take the blows with me. The rest would be on vacation.

It's a shame when you put it this way....

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Why Did the Governing Body Change Their Interpretation Of Matthew 24:45-47?

by Cameron_Don in

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some have wondered if "captives of a concept" had anything to do with why the governing body changed their interpretation of the most important scripture in their theology at their annual meeting on october 6, 2012.. this is because the book places great emphasis on the societys interpretation of matthew 24:45-47 and then holds them to it while examining the organizations history to make sure that went on in its history fits their interpretation.

this comparison is essential to the societys claim to being gods organization.. their previous interpretation came from their former most imminent bible scholar president frederick franzs in his "gods kingdom of a thousand years has approached.

" their history comes from their "jehovahs witnesses proclaimers of gods kingdom.".

Separation of Powers

Thank you for the insightful post. There are many things that spur on the type of changes we have seen over the past few years. I believe that "Captives" may indeed have had some effect. I believe, moreso, that there is a single element that has had more to do with these changes than anything else....Narcissism. That's right...I said it. These GB believe that THEY are the fulfillment of prophecy. They must believe that Jah's timetable was simply waiting for each of them to be added to the mix. Kind of like when all the planets align in some hollywood type sci-fi movie. When that happens, bad things are gonna take place.

I encourage everyone to examine the history of the Borgia's and the Rovere's in Italy during Michelangelo, particularly as it relates to their belief about being destined by God to see prophecy fulfilled through them. Interesting similarities with this GB's mindset.

SOP